Trust or not to Trust the Weather Forecast – Hiking Thaneller 2 341 m

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At times it feels like looking at the weather forecast has become my new hobby 😀 While other people spend their time checking for Facebook updates, I spend my time on checking the weather forecast for different parts of the Alps! 😀 (Btw, I still trust the Norwegian weather app yr.no the most)

This weekend I had not been been hiking for the two past weekends and was quite desperate, but again the weather forecast predicted thunderstorms and rain in the mountains for the weekend to come. The question was, should I trust the forecast or not?? In the end I decided not to do so, and went hiking anyways! I was off course ready for rain and we had decided that if the weather turns stormy we will turn around.

So we got up at 5:30, took the 6:35 train from Hbf and headed to Heiterwang to conquer Thaneller (2341m). First of all I must say I was totally surprised that I could use the Bayern ticket the whole way, as Heiterwang is in Austria. So this was a pleasant surprise. After 2 hours and 15 Minutes we were there. The weather was perfect, 23 degrees and sunny. Still, I was a little worried because the rain was supposed to start after 12:00, hence we had quite fast pace for the first two hours.

The path from Heiterwang is not hard to find and it is a nice path through the forest and across several green meadows. If the sky is clear you can spot the peak already form the train station (It is the highest one).

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This is the peak, but you have to go around to the right, before you start the accent

 

After two hours, a rocky gravel path starts and heads to the right. We were not aware of this, but in fact you have to go to the right side of Thaneller to get to the peak. This was a little disappointing for us, as it felt that we were almost there as the peak was so near, but instead of heading right up the wall we needed to follow the path approx 30 minutes direction Reutte and decent approximately 150 hm down into a valley, where the real accent started.  From the valley we followed a zigzag gravel path direction a rocky wall.  When we meet the wall, the most fun part of the hike started. There is some scrambling and some iron ropes, but no equipment is needed. From this point we thought the peak was quite close, but in fact It took us another 1h 30 minutes to reach the peak.

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THE WALL , the path follows the left side

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The view from the peak was really worth the struggle. Plansee changed its colors from blue to green as the sun hit it and the white clouds made the view to the lakes mysterious and idyllic at the same time:

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One happy mountaingirl

As always we took our time on the peak and stayed approximately for an hour enjoying the sun, the view and the calmness of Thalneller. From the peak, we could actually see all the way to Hohenschwangau. We could also easily spot Säuling, so it was cool to spot it and know that we have been on top of it :D:D You can read about our hike to Säuling here.

We went down the same scrambling path as we came up, but choose a different path down in the valley to Heiterwang because I find it boring to go up and down the same path and that way we did not have to climb 150 m up again 🙂 It was a really nice path that followed the river for some time so we could fill up our water bottles and then turned into a forest road which was very enjoyable to walk down to Heiterwang. I would not choose this path up to Thanleller, because upwards it would be too boring to walk the forest road, but downhill after a heavy hike, it was perfect!

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The fog got to us on the way down, but we did not really mind after the view we had from the peak.

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I have made a GPS track of the whole trail available on Outdooractive.

We got to Heiterwang at 17:50 and had some time to kill before the next train at 18:38. So we saw everything there was to see of Heiterwang, which is not much. We could not even find a place where you could buy a beer 😦 In other words, there is no point to spend time in Heiterwang, there is just nothing to see! But we used the waiting time to do some stretching and yoga exercises, so the passed fast.

In conclusion, don’t trust the weather app 100%. At least I am glad I did not this weekend. I even know people who were braver than me and went for Alpspitze – a peak that I have planned to do for a month now! Perhaps later this month I can finally stand on top of it!

Until the next hike. Now I’m off for some boulderfun 🙂

 

Schöttelkarspitze – a hike that has it all.

Schöttelkarspitze hike, via the Soiuernhaus hut, really has it all. The peak itself is just above 2000 m, and the hike up is not easy, but also not too hard. The ridge is a little exposed, but unless you are really afraid of highs you will be fine. We had actually planned to do both Soiernspitze and Schöttelkarspitze, but that would have been a really long hike for one day. And as the last bus back to Garmisch-Partenkirchen leaves at 19:51, it would also mean not having time for long breaks on the top of the peaks! Therefore we decided to do only Schöttelkarspitze this time, have a long break and nice lunch on the top of the peak and then head down to Soiernhaus for beer and a swim in the Soiernsee. This was my second time in the area. I spotted this mountain for the first time during our winter hike and since then it has been on my list. Now that I have done it and been to the peak, I find it super crazy that some people did it during winter with lots of snow! I guess there are some people out there who like taking bigger risks than I do…

We started out from Krün. The first 1000 m are more or less in forest on a dirt trail. We were glad for that because the trees offered some protection from the sun. It was quite steep so I got a good workout, trying to keep up the speed of our super fast group. The trail got less steep after we got out of the forest at that point we could easily spot Schöttelkarspitze as it is so pointy!

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The view that meets you when you get out of the forest
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Schöttelkarspitze from the distance
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Getting closer 😀

Before getting to it however, we had to hike up to a peak called Seinskof. Well, actually did not go to the peak and its cross, but had a lunch on a ridge, not far away from Seinskof. After Seinskof you can choose if you want to take the upper path over the ridge or a lower path that is not so exposed. If you ask me upper path is so worth it, and it wasn’t really exposed. I mean, there was a little scrambling for couple of meters but that was all. And the views were most certainly better than on the lower path, but it’s nice to have an option to avoid the ridge for the less adventurous ;).

 

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Chilling on the peak, 0h what a view.

After Seinskof the hike was just pure joy. On the peak itself we had a long break, the only thing that got us moving was the thought of a cold beer in the hut and a nice referencing swim to wash off all the sun lotion. We could spot the hut from the peak and had therefore no trouble with finding the right direction. The way down was on a curvy, rocky path, so hiking poles were nice to have (I really do not know how I managed to hike without them for so many years).

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Soiernsee

At the hut we were not sure how much time we could use on a swim and food. We were told by some local mountain rangers that we would need 3 hours to get to Krün. That meant we had only about 30 minutes in the hut. Therefore we had to choose between beer or a swim. I chose the beer this time. Some of my friends went for a swim and could report that the water was refreshingly cold (Read cold :D). After beer/food/swim, we started to head down to Krün, kind of in a hurry, not wanting to miss the last bus.

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Shortly after we started our descent we came to a way cross where we needed to choose between an upper path (to the left) or lower path (to the right). The signs said that both paths would take the same amount of time, so we went for the upper path – Lakaiensteig via the Fischbachalm. This path was very nice, not steep and we had a scenic view to a long and loud waterfall which the other path seemed to cross.

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On our path we also crossed some small mountain rivers where I dipped my head into the cold mountain water, to get rid of some of the sweat and sun lotion. Oh what an amazing feeling! We also filled our water bottles since we forgot to do that in the hut.  Not long into the decent, we met a young couple who were going camping in the area. I was a little jealous at the moment, but it rained a lot that night, so I hope they had a good tent.

After approximately one and a half hour the path ended in a road, the same road we would have walked when taking the lower route. We followed this road for one hour to Krün and missed the 6 o’ clock bus with 15 minutes. That was actually not a problem at all, we just sat and enjoined the sun and the rest of the food we had left by Isar for an hour. Unfortunately Isar was really cold, so swimming was not an option.

We then walked to Krün and were kind of surprised how many restaurants this small place has. If we would have known that I guess we would have skipped chilling by the Isar and had some pizza instead. I am glad we did not know. Sitting by Isar, looking at sunset and stretching a bit was quality time. At least for me.

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My friend Anna has posted a GPS track of the hike here, together with instructions of what bus and train to take from Munich.

Already at the hut it was decided that we will come back to this nice area, perhaps for an overnight hike, perhaps with a tent?  I can not wait!

Now I am getting ready for some adventures in Norway, so stay tuned 🙂

And the last hike of 2016 went to…

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Long time no see, have you been hiking? I have 😀 !

Between all these Christmas markets, Gluhwein evenings (I just can not get enough Gluhwein 😛 ) and Christmas parties, I finally found time and will to go hiking again. Originally I had a different hike planned but then life happened. I discovered that I had a concert ticket for a concert on Saturday night and that the weather was not looking too good for Sunday. Luckily my dear love managed to convince me to go on an easy hike on Saturday :).  Normally I am not hard to convince, but on Friday evening I was still feeling little hangover from a Christmas party we had at work and did really not feel liek going hiking on Saturday. Especially when I knew that I also had to go to a concert after the hike. Luckily my love did all the packing and preparations so I just needed to say yes!

Saturday morning of we were to the following hike:

Route: Flintsbach -Hohe Asten 1104 m – Riesenkopf 1338 m – Maiwand 1135 m-Hohe Asten 1104 m – Flintsbach

Time: depends on your speed, but approximately 3 hours to Riesenkopf  and 30 -40 min to Maiwand. 1,5 hour down from Hohe Asten.

Elevation gain: Approximately 1000m, little more it you do Maiwand.

Transport: approximately 1 hour by train from Munich direction Kufstein.

This hike is very easy, so it is perfect for a beginner or for a family – EXCEPT Maiwand! Maiwand peak is therefore optional. It is just for the more adventitious ones, because it requires surefootedness and that you are not afraid to climb a short wall using only rope. If you don’t feel up for it just go to Riesenkopf and back to the hut.

On Riesenkopf  we had a loong break and just enjoyed the sun.

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Here are some pictures from Maiwand. No extra equipment is needed. If you feel safer you can take a helmet with you, but there is no danger for loose rocks.

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We split the group into two and it was only four of us doing Maiwand in the end.

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You need to climb this short wall both on you way there and back. Somehow, the way back is much easier than the way down 😉

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Surefootedness is needed on this short but exposed ridge. If you look closely you can see the Maiwand peak on the background.

As you see there are two tricky parts to hiking Maiwand.

  1. The path to it is quite hard to find. Basically when you see the red sign saying “Nor for güpte” this is where you need to take to the right to do the pike. BTW, you can easily see Maiwand from Riesenkopf . After taking to the right at sign, you just need to try to keep going right the path is really not marked. But after a short while ( 5 – 8 mins) you can see the peak and you will know where to go.
  2.  There is a approximately 6 m high wall  where you have to rely on a rope to get down (see the pics in the slideshow). The rope is already there so you don’t need to bring your own.

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Hohe Asten is usually open the whole year and is a very nice hut for enjoining a beer with a nice view.

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What is your last hike of year 2016 and what hiking plans do you have for 2017??

Krottenkopf (2086m) and hiking with hikingbuddies.

As I wrote in previous post, this weekend I joined an organized hike by a group named Hiking buddies Munich (you can check them out here). This is a quite active hiking group on Facebook, where everybody can organize hikes and invite people to join. Hikes that are organized vary from difficult hikes for experienced hikers and easy hikes for complete new beginners.

The hike I joined went to Krottenkopf (2086m) in Germany and in the end we were 9 people doing it (one person did not feel good and decided to turn around quite early in the hike).

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Krottenkopf is the peak to the right, so this is where you will be walking up. It looks worse than it is 😉

Route:  Oberau train station (659m) – Weilheimer Hütte (1955m) – Krottenkopf (2086m) – Weilheimer Hütte – Oberau.

Elevation gain: ca. 1500 m

Time: We used 8 hours, with 3 long breaks and some short ones.

Distance: about 17 km.

Transport: Take train form München HBF to Oberau.

This trail is steep. You have a little beak when you reach the ridge and are going to the hut, from the hut it is just about 15 -20 min up to the peak on a perhaps even steeper trail. The trail is steep but involves no scrambling and it is not exposed at all. Therefore the only requirement to do this hike is to have good enough fitness level. Alternatively you could do it during the summer so that you don’t need to worry about hiking in dark.

Now, I promised to write about how the hike went with new group of people. As I already wrote I had hiked with only two of these people before. And therefore I also knew that the pace would be quite fast.. perhaps too fast form me 😛  Nevertheless, I joined ( I could not just sit home now could I?) So what happened was that they were quite fast and the group was naturally divided into two. This was actually very good because nobody needed to hike alone. The fast part of the group was very inclusive and waited for us at the hut before we started with the last climb  all together. That said, I think we were not more than 15 -20 minutes behind them while hiking.

Everybody in the group were friendly and social. I think I got to know everybody except 2 people.. It kind of depends who you end up walking with. It was very nice international group and during the hike we shared our tips for hikes and travels in general. I truly believe everybody had a nice hike and I would not mind hiking with these people again 🙂

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Enjoying the sun during a nice break on our way down.

On hiking buddies hikes there is often Gipfelbier (peak beer) and Gipfelschnaps (peak shot). I still not used to drinking while hiking ( I first experienced this strange tradition in Germany) , but I do not say no to a cold nice weissbier on a top of a mountain during nice whether. With not so sunny whether, I must be honest, I don’t really feel the urge for it

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Anna enjoying her beer with a view.

Ah I just got a selfie stick as a present from my sister, so I was testing this out. I am a complete newbie with selfie sticks, so it was actually hard to catch both the group and the mountains in the same picture with it 😀 Here is my attempt:

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Today it is snowing in Munich (kind of) and it is suppose to snow (for real) above 1000m. This means that the snow-hiking season is here 😀 Last year I did not do snow-hiking, but this year I might just try it 😀 I have also yet to try snowshoes so this promises to be an interesting and adventurous winter.

What are your plans for the winter season? Have you ever tried snowshoes?

A hike with the view to the Neuschwanstein castle.

This weekend my Mom is visiting. Unfortunately she is really not into hiking. Therefore, instead of visiting some nice peaks in the alps, we are going to do the regular touristy stuff. One of the sights that are really worth to visit while in Bavaria is the Neuschwanstein castle and I have good news – you can combine the visit with a hike. That is if you don’t mind missing the inside tour of the castle (actually I really recommend the tour, so the best option would be to do the hike and the castle visit on separate days).

Anyways, my Mom and me are not going to hike (since we prioritize the castle visit), but I have done a very cool hike just in the area, which gives you also a perfect view to the castle.

Route: 

Talstation Tegelbergbahn (840 m) – Tegelberghaus (1707 m) – Branderschrofen (1879 m) – Tegelberghaus (1707 m) – Schloss Neuschwanstein (964 m) – Talstation Tegelbergbahn (840 m).

From Talstation Tegelbergbahn there are several possible routes up to Tegelberghaus. You can do some level D/C via Ferrata (Tegenberger Klattestaig) take the Gelbe Wand (KlattestaigA/B) or do no Via Ferrata at all.

Elevation gain: 1039m

Time: 3 hours up and 3 hours down, for the Gelbewand route. But it depends also how many pictures you take 😉

Transport: Train to Füssen from Munich. It does not leave every hour so check the schedule. In Füssen take a bus from the train station to Talstation Tegelbergbahn. Make sure you get on the right bus and not on the one that all the tourists who want to visit the castle take. Therefore ask! Remember you can use the Bayernticket for the bus as well, some poor tourists don’t know that 😦

When we did this hike we had planned to the Tegenberger Klattestaig, but it had rained the day before so it was quite slippery and we ended up doing the “Gelbewand” route instead. Both my husband and me felt that it was the right choice, but lets see, maybe we will do the “real”klettersteig next year :D.

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Start of the Tegenberger Klatterstaig, just walk pass the ladder to take the Gelbe Wand route.

 

The Gelbewand route does not really require Via Ferrata equipment, but if you are not comfortable with little climbing and heights then differently take the set with you ( we did not use our equipment, but better be safe than sorry). Which ever route you choose it is a reeealy nice hike! PS. chose some good shoes with some grip and water resistance, it’s quite wet terrain.

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On the Gelbe Wand route.

After you are done with the part of the route that is called Gelbe Wand you reach the hut where you can take a break before climbing the last meters to the Branderschrofen. You can also see all the lazy people who have taken the cable car to the hut (please don’t be one of those 😉 ). The view is very nice, especially when the mountaintops are still covered in some snow (We did this hike end of May 2016)

From the hut it will still take you about 30 -40 minutes to Branderschrofen peak. So if you are not doing well on time I would just skip the peak and go directly to the castle. But don’t misunderstand me, the Branderschrofen peak is deferentially worth it and it is not as crowded as the hut since almost of the (lazy) tourists don’t make the effort to climb the peak. In fact I remember we having the peak completely to ourselves for 20 minutes. Spoiler alert there is a panorama view with all the peaks that you can see from the Branderschrofen available here.

On you way down you have to go via the hut again and since the hike up to Branderschrofen is little bit exposed I recommend to wait with the Weisbeer until your way down ;). At the hut you need to choose the path the castle which goes across the famous Marienbrücke 🙂 :). There are signs so it is easy to find.

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View from Marienbrücke this weekend.

 

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If you have any energy/time left after the hike enjoy Füssen village. The old town is so nice and cozy!

I hope you get out and do some nice peaks this weekend! I know many of my friends are doing so and I am jealous because hiking in autumn colors is so beautiful.

 

Große Arnspitze (2196 m)

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This weekend the weather was on our side and so we decided to hike up Große Arnspitze (2196 m) just across the German border. As a matter of fact you start in Germany and end the hike in Austria. Hiking from one country to another is fun!

To be exact the route we took was the following: Mittenwald (923 m) – Riedkopf (1860 m) – Arnspitzhütte (2003 m) – Große Arnspitze (2196 m) – Arnspitzhütte (1955 m) – Scharnitz (964 m). 

This means it is almost a 1300m climb. Its not for a beginner, but nice easy intermediate hike. Actually the hardest part is not the elevation gain, but the fact that the hike is long. The signs say 5.25h to the top and we used that time including two long lunch breaks. I mean, with weather like this its a crime not to take breaks to enjoy the view.

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Can you spot the hut?  Scharnitz is down in the valley.

We had some trouble finding the trail from Mittenwald, since there are no directions to the hike in the train station. Here a map and GPS were useful.

The trail it self is quite easy. The first hours are on a smooth and even trail in the forest. The only problematic part is that it is easy to loose the trail while looking at the Karwendel on the opposite side of the valley. Especially since the path is not that visible all the time, so keep looking for the red markings every now and then.

After a while you come higher up and have even better view of Karwendel. Therefore, I recommend to wait until you are just above the tree level before having a lunch break. Its a bit far but its amazing to sit and have lunch to this view.

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This is not Karwendel, but to the left is Wettersteinkopf, which is a really nice hike!!

After walking across the Riedkopf its a more or less even path to Arnspitzhütte. Btw I think this is not a serviced hut and when we did the hike it was closed, so take enough food and water with you. From the hut its approximately 200 high meters to the top of the peak. This is pretty steep so its heavy but fast. Just the way we like it! I think we used 30 -45 min up. On the top there are two peaks. One that is a peak for less experienced hikers (read nubs) and the real Arnzpitse. In order to get to the real Arnspitze where the cross is, you need to cross a short exposed ridge. Don’t do it in rain or if its slippery! This is me crossing the ridge:

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Now after enjoying the view and eating your chocolates, you go down to the hut again and then take the trail pass the hut direction Scharnitz.  Its a long way down. Really – the path does go further away from Scharnitz before it turns back to Scharnitz. I recommend waking to Gießenbach instead, since it is the same distance and then you don’t need to walk backwards.

As we don’t own a car we normally get to the mountains by public transport. With car there are so many more opposites and it is normally easy to figure out how to get to the starting point, therefore I will just give the instructions for public transport from my current base, Munich.

So how to get there: 

Take a train from Munich Hbf as early as possible. We took the seven a clock train. Coming back is also easy, just take the train from Scharnitz/Gießenbach.

I even got sunburned this weekend. In the middle of October? Can you believe it? Crazy, but I like it! I hope you guys got a change to escape the city and enjoy the mountains this weekend.

Until next time,

Caho!